Warning: If you are a non-Raveler you might not be interested in the main subject of this post, but the childish drama is entertaining!
So if you stalk blogs like I do you probably have noticed a good amount of people upset with Ravelry over some account banning. As a relatively quiet non trouble making raveler the situation as I see it is this...
Pre 2008 election there was a group that supported McCain (fine), and they loved to talk about their support of McCain (also fine). Post 2008 election they turned into "The Bunker" stressing their view that an Obama led America was something to be afraid of (not great but not necessarily hurtful). It is important to note here that Ravelry is also host to a pro Obama group and had he lost I don't claim to know what their reaction would be. So they stewed awhile on their own group peacefully (upset but not irrational), but eventually their emotions ran a little rampant and they began some nasty name calling that eventually went against the Rules to Live By on Ravelry and apparently the moderators of this group did nothing to remind their members of the rules. So to make a long story short the owners of Ravelry and the moderators of "The Bunker" went back and forth over what was appropriate on Ravelry, which ultimately led to "The Bunker" being closed down due to failure to comply with the site's guidelines (which is totally within the right of the owners because they are the owners). So the jilted members of this group stomped their feet and pouted in the form of Ravatars (avatars for Ravelry) and posts and such...
This is where I feel the story gets ridiculous... Some of the former members of "The Bunker" banded together on another networking site and then used it to hack into Ravelry disrupting it's operation. The continued abuse of Ravelry in this manner led to the owners banning the members of this outside group. Unfortunately there were some innocent bystanders who were members of "The Bunker" but not of the new militant (haha just a joke) group who were also banned.
So now this group is blogging all over about the woes of their being banned from Ravelry. When they were on Ravelry they did nothing but bitch about their rights and not being able to call other members Nazi's and other worse names.
Bottom line: The owners of Ravelry OWN Ravelry, so just like with any store, bank, and/or restaurant it is their discretion whether you are allowed in their place of business. If they wanted to ban you because of your views they would have done so with you group's conception not 6 months later. Accessing a website by means of another website is shady, disruptive, and destructive and I don't believe it would be allowed anywhere. You asked to be invited to Ravelry for the purpose of finding cool patterns, sharing your work, cataloging your yarn, and talking to people who share your hobby. If those were not your intentions you should have found another site. You are not being treated unfairly, you are being treated like children because that's what you are acting like. You are acting like children who lost an argument and then began throwing stones. Grow up and walk away with dignity without ruining Raverly for the rest of us.
**BTW the innocent bystanders mentioned earlier are being looked over by Ravelry's legal team which I'm sure will take awhile since every person banned claims to be an innocent bystander.
**If you have read this and would really like to smack me now please don't bother adding a nasty comment as I won't be posting it.
Very well put! I like your objectivity-- we need more of that in this crazy world we live in. I wasn't in either group but heard about some of the goings-on in my Knitters for Peace Group.
ReplyDeleteThank you! I always feel bad for Jess and Casey and all they have to put up with!
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